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Unactivated SIMs - no expiry

By: bertiebat | 11-04-2013 23:16

There is a mismatch between the official word that unactivated SIMs expire after 6 (sometimes 9) months and what actually happens to at least some SIMs as I've had SIMs activated well over a year after I've received them and as recently as March this year.

SIM given 07 Feb 2012 xxxxxxxx 08 Mar 2013

Since the numbers aren't allocated until they are activated I can't see any reasons for expiring unactivated SIMs?

Edit: the actual way the SIMs are provisioned is slight more complicated and further details from giffgaff and this proposal can be found in this contribute thread which looks like this idea may indeed be possible. :smileyhappy:

I suspect unused SIMs are already being needlessly thrown away because people think they expire after 6 months. Those in the know can use the SIM checker to see if it's still live and safe to give out but most will simply end up in the bin (not very green). :smileysad:


Quite simply just ensure that all giffgaff SIMs produced don't expire and remove all references to the SIMs expiring after a set period.


Much less wasted SIMs and allows people to know with proper conviction that there is no need to get new SIMs after 6 months. :smileyhappy:

giffgaff can promote itself as a much greener company as other networks that pre-allocate numbers have to expire their SIMs (to recycle unused numbers). This also adds justification as why giffgaff doesn't pre-allocate phone numbers on the SIMs. :smileyhappy:

So if you would like keep giffgaff greener then you know what to do :smileywink:


by: evs22
on: 29-11-2015 19:47

This idea is fantastic. It would make giffgaff a lot more ethical and environmentaly friendly.

by: chirizphone01
on: 28-10-2015 19:41

Would be good I think +1

by: cor
on: 03-10-2015 07:34

I like the green way of looking at it.

by: okap
on: 27-09-2015 03:30


by: okap
on: 27-09-2015 03:30

I support this. My sons are often working/living overseas and sometimes not back in the UK for more than 6 months. It always a hassle for them to remember to 'charge" it in order to keep their UK number which is very important to them for business when back in the Uk. 

by: jeff_elephant
on: 25-09-2015 17:28

If unactivated SIM's are no extra cost to giffgaff over expiring SIM's then this idea works. However, if there is a cost to giffgaff, I would recommend a 12 month life (instead of 6 months). THe SIM Checker is a good tool 

by: jeff_elephant
on: 16-09-2015 11:07

SIM's should expire after 12 months so the phone number can be reallocated

by: smidsy11
on: 07-08-2015 16:23

Sims are recycled as they and msisdns sit on a HLR, mega mega expensive to buy. So the expirey is bore out of the neccessity to keep the HLR as uncluttered as possible.

Good idea though to allow them to be dynamically re readded, 2hr activation doesnt seem too bad IMHO.

by: lilinlim
on: 01-08-2015 08:05

My son, Husband & I have transferred from EE (orange), where the SIMS remain active if not used and the credit is not lost. We are currently working/living overseas and sometimes not back in the UK for more than 6 months. If we had known the SIMS are deactivated if not used for 6 months we would not have transferred, so fully support the idea of leaving active indefinitley and adopting best practice of other providers.

by: giffer23
on: 25-07-2015 17:16

This is great idea and will provide lowering costs in giffgaff organization, vote from me too. :)