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Allow Goodybags to be used in EU

By: deffers90 | 03-04-2014 15:05

When the scrapping of roaming charges comes into force later on next year (see bbc news story
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26866966 ) I propose that we are able to use our normal goodybag allowance with in the EU.

I'm not if this would be in the pipeline or not but I know networks aren't allowed to charge more for calls etc than in their country of origin, but I think it would be popular with other giffgaffers


by: espuelita
on: 08-05-2016 16:18

This would be most welcome and good cuedos for gg!

by: lancedirwai
on: 30-04-2016 18:20

i support this idea....any news?

by: gabj_gaby18
on: 21-04-2016 23:09

Good ideea

by: srehman
on: 21-04-2016 16:52

1+ from me. :)

by: davidvarley
on: 20-04-2016 13:28

I agree with many on here is supposed to be run by members and as there are many votes for this idea it should be implemented.

by: adds8476
on: 10-04-2016 00:54

Would be great, similar to Three's 'feel at home' scheme. Could be a great selling point, especially for frequent travellers to the continent, save them getting a local sim

by: davidj63
on: 09-04-2016 20:17

I don't see any discussion of the input costs to giffgaff in doing this.  UK bundles are possible because the termination costs for UK calls are less than 1p a minute.   If the real costs of making calls from the EU, as seen by a UK provider, is not down at this level, goodybag prices will need to increase and UK callers will have to subsidize EU ones, as is currently happening with PAYG.

Mobile phone operators don't tell consumers the real cost structure, which is far than a cost per minute based one (e.g. the additional cost of handling a call in the middle of night may be very small).  They simply come up with tariff structures that, on balance cover their costs and profits, and possibly encourage behaviour that is beneficial to them (e.g. more calls at off peak times), which looks fair to the user and doesn't result in too many users that are nett loss makers.  They're more psychology than a reflection of true cost structures.

Unfortunately, that results in people thinking that you can introduce bundles and make things cheaper for the consumers.  The only thing that will really make things cheaper for the average consumer are things that make more efficient use of network resources, which means there has to be a change in call patterns.  If people just make exactly the same calls they would have made without the bundle, the difference in cost between the bundle cost and the PAYG cost has to come from someone, and it is not going to be the shareholders!  In fact, if bundles result in a disproportionate increase in peak time traffic, they may mean that the total cost to users has to go up, as one of the biggest costs to operators is likely to be the cost of the infrastructure, which depends on the peak traffic volumes..

Where particular operators appear to be offering particularly attractive EU bundles, they may be loss leaders, relying on not too much real use being made of them, or they may indicate that the UK call  charges are too high.   All bundle prices will assume that the average user doesn't use up all their allowances every month.

For someone like giffgaff, there may be an added complication in that they may well not be being charged based on the true cost structure of the underlying network, so will have to design their tariffs based on the structure they see, not the real one.

by: joho1
on: 08-04-2016 09:51

would love that

by: funtomino
on: 01-04-2016 23:28

No official update here? I am travelling Europe and I will get me O2 sim because it is cheaper and with very good pricing for data. 

by: kristineh
on: 31-03-2016 04:40

Sadly the whole family will have to leave giffgaff if goodybags dont extend to cover europe or an international goodybag can be made available. Sad, because we love gg - but necessary as our roaming costs are just becoming too big...